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	<title>Comments on: Flash is a Reality, is HTML5 Only a Promise?</title>
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		<title>By: local seo</title>
		<link>http://iconnectdots.com/2009/06/flash-is-a-reality-is-html5-only-a-promise.html/comment-page-1#comment-13596</link>
		<dc:creator>local seo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 08 Aug 2011 15:40:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I alluded to in my post: InDesign output to Flash or Web is so poor that I (and just about every designer I know) would be embarrassed to deliver it as an extension of a print deliverable.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I alluded to in my post: InDesign output to Flash or Web is so poor that I (and just about every designer I know) would be embarrassed to deliver it as an extension of a print deliverable.</p>
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		<title>By: Killer for Flash, Silverlight and JavaFX is Coming ??? &#171; Revealing the secret of RIA World</title>
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		<dc:creator>Killer for Flash, Silverlight and JavaFX is Coming ??? &#171; Revealing the secret of RIA World</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 24 Jul 2009 15:04:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Another interesting article which I like most is â€œFlash is the Reality; HTML5 is the Promiseâ€. Read this article &gt;&gt;. [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] Another interesting article which I like most is â€œFlash is the Reality; HTML5 is the Promiseâ€. Read this article &gt;&gt;. [...]</p>
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		<title>By: bex</title>
		<link>http://iconnectdots.com/2009/06/flash-is-a-reality-is-html5-only-a-promise.html/comment-page-1#comment-2885</link>
		<dc:creator>bex</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 23 Jun 2009 13:34:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I agree... Since Adobe doesn&#039;t make any money from the Flash *player*, there is no inherent conflict of interest between Adobe and HTML5. If they play their cards right, they could focus their energy on making premium HTML5 design tools... their apps could output Flash, Flex, or &#039;pure&#039; HTML5.

This isn&#039;t too radical of an idea... software developers have used the concept of &#039;target systems&#039; for decades. You set what your target system is, and your compiler lets you know when you coded a feature not available on that platform.

So, if you used basic animation, video, and offline editing, you could output HTML5 from Adobe&#039;s design tools.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I agree&#8230; Since Adobe doesn&#8217;t make any money from the Flash *player*, there is no inherent conflict of interest between Adobe and HTML5. If they play their cards right, they could focus their energy on making premium HTML5 design tools&#8230; their apps could output Flash, Flex, or &#8216;pure&#8217; HTML5.</p>
<p>This isn&#8217;t too radical of an idea&#8230; software developers have used the concept of &#8216;target systems&#8217; for decades. You set what your target system is, and your compiler lets you know when you coded a feature not available on that platform.</p>
<p>So, if you used basic animation, video, and offline editing, you could output HTML5 from Adobe&#8217;s design tools.</p>
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		<title>By: John Dowdell</title>
		<link>http://iconnectdots.com/2009/06/flash-is-a-reality-is-html5-only-a-promise.html/comment-page-1#comment-2652</link>
		<dc:creator>John Dowdell</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 23 Jun 2009 05:06:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi Steve (and sorry about the missed reference in my last comment ;-) 

&lt;em&gt;&quot;... where Adobe is taking â€œoutputâ€ from your tools: Flash only and all the wood-is-behind-the-bat to knock Flash out of the park? Or is it that *and* delivering on HTML5?&quot;&lt;/em&gt;

HTML is a big area for Adobe. Dreamweaver is a big seller -- got its start bridging the browser fragmentation of DHTML days.  Most of the other tools use HTML in some way, or produce for HTML in some way. Adobe also does a lot with output to film and video, electronic documents, paper. 

Adobe&#039;s investment in SWF hopes to enlarge the publishing choices of tomorrow. There are various workflows, some for designers, some for developers, some for groups of creators. The goal is to remove barriers to publishers, whatever style they may choose.

The InDesign folks are currently mid-cycle in development, but are always looking for change-requests.

jd/adobe</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Steve (and sorry about the missed reference in my last comment <img src='http://iconnectdots.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';-)' class='wp-smiley' />  </p>
<p><em>&#8220;&#8230; where Adobe is taking â€œoutputâ€ from your tools: Flash only and all the wood-is-behind-the-bat to knock Flash out of the park? Or is it that *and* delivering on HTML5?&#8221;</em></p>
<p>HTML is a big area for Adobe. Dreamweaver is a big seller &#8212; got its start bridging the browser fragmentation of DHTML days.  Most of the other tools use HTML in some way, or produce for HTML in some way. Adobe also does a lot with output to film and video, electronic documents, paper. </p>
<p>Adobe&#8217;s investment in SWF hopes to enlarge the publishing choices of tomorrow. There are various workflows, some for designers, some for developers, some for groups of creators. The goal is to remove barriers to publishers, whatever style they may choose.</p>
<p>The InDesign folks are currently mid-cycle in development, but are always looking for change-requests.</p>
<p>jd/adobe</p>
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		<title>By: Steve Borsch</title>
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		<dc:creator>Steve Borsch</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 22 Jun 2009 16:27:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;What do you seek from me?&quot;

Sorry about the delayed response (and maybe we should take this to email), but I guess understanding directionally where Adobe is taking &quot;output&quot; from your tools: Flash only and all the wood-is-behind-the-bat to knock Flash out of the park? Or is it that *and* delivering on HTML5? 

The former would continue Adobe&#039;s hegemony with the Flash platform so it&#039;s assumed (and reinforced by your CEO&#039;s analyst call remarks) that it&#039;s all Flash and Flash only. If it&#039;s that *and* the latter (as the latter gains momentum), then that would be good to hear publicly.

The other piece is what I perceive as a shift away from the design community and an embracing of the developer community in ways that are (IMHO) placing much of the Flash, RIA and other deliverables just slightly out of reach for designers. These folks are ones whose core skill-sets are being obviated by a move away from print output toward the web, RIA&#039;s, Flash, widgets (or &#039;sprouts&#039;) and there are few &quot;bridge&quot; products that take them from print-to-web, leveraging their skills.

To illustrate that last point is what I alluded to in my post: InDesign output to Flash or Web is so poor that I (and just about every designer I know) would be embarrassed to deliver it as an extension of a print deliverable. 

So understanding Adobe&#039;s focus on those respective ecosystems (designers &amp; developers) would also be beneficial to hear. Again, it&#039;s because Adobe&#039;s DNA ensures that you &quot;get&quot; the subtleties and nuances designers demand for output that places Adobe in a class by itself (and I *would* put Apple in that class but, for the most part, their tools are targeted at the masses rather than the creative class).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;What do you seek from me?&#8221;</p>
<p>Sorry about the delayed response (and maybe we should take this to email), but I guess understanding directionally where Adobe is taking &#8220;output&#8221; from your tools: Flash only and all the wood-is-behind-the-bat to knock Flash out of the park? Or is it that *and* delivering on HTML5? </p>
<p>The former would continue Adobe&#8217;s hegemony with the Flash platform so it&#8217;s assumed (and reinforced by your CEO&#8217;s analyst call remarks) that it&#8217;s all Flash and Flash only. If it&#8217;s that *and* the latter (as the latter gains momentum), then that would be good to hear publicly.</p>
<p>The other piece is what I perceive as a shift away from the design community and an embracing of the developer community in ways that are (IMHO) placing much of the Flash, RIA and other deliverables just slightly out of reach for designers. These folks are ones whose core skill-sets are being obviated by a move away from print output toward the web, RIA&#8217;s, Flash, widgets (or &#8216;sprouts&#8217;) and there are few &#8220;bridge&#8221; products that take them from print-to-web, leveraging their skills.</p>
<p>To illustrate that last point is what I alluded to in my post: InDesign output to Flash or Web is so poor that I (and just about every designer I know) would be embarrassed to deliver it as an extension of a print deliverable. </p>
<p>So understanding Adobe&#8217;s focus on those respective ecosystems (designers &#038; developers) would also be beneficial to hear. Again, it&#8217;s because Adobe&#8217;s DNA ensures that you &#8220;get&#8221; the subtleties and nuances designers demand for output that places Adobe in a class by itself (and I *would* put Apple in that class but, for the most part, their tools are targeted at the masses rather than the creative class).</p>
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		<title>By: John Dowdell</title>
		<link>http://iconnectdots.com/2009/06/flash-is-a-reality-is-html5-only-a-promise.html/comment-page-1#comment-2216</link>
		<dc:creator>John Dowdell</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 20 Jun 2009 16:19:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Sorry, I went through the &quot;few thoughts that swirl around in my head in no particular order&quot; part... I thought the call-to-action of the post was in the &quot;What&#039;s it gonna be Adobe&quot; section, about future tooling changes for &quot;HTML5&quot;.

What do you seek from me?

jd/adobe</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sorry, I went through the &#8220;few thoughts that swirl around in my head in no particular order&#8221; part&#8230; I thought the call-to-action of the post was in the &#8220;What&#8217;s it gonna be Adobe&#8221; section, about future tooling changes for &#8220;HTML5&#8243;.</p>
<p>What do you seek from me?</p>
<p>jd/adobe</p>
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		<title>By: Steve Borsch</title>
		<link>http://iconnectdots.com/2009/06/flash-is-a-reality-is-html5-only-a-promise.html/comment-page-1#comment-2081</link>
		<dc:creator>Steve Borsch</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 19 Jun 2009 22:50:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;Other than that Mrs. Lincoln, how&#039;d you like the play?&quot;

Curious what you think of the other 95% of the post JD?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Other than that Mrs. Lincoln, how&#8217;d you like the play?&#8221;</p>
<p>Curious what you think of the other 95% of the post JD?</p>
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		<title>By: John Dowdell</title>
		<link>http://iconnectdots.com/2009/06/flash-is-a-reality-is-html5-only-a-promise.html/comment-page-1#comment-2080</link>
		<dc:creator>John Dowdell</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 19 Jun 2009 22:35:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi, the comments section at that post had more explanation of the Flash Lite line. The Open Screen Project launched in May2008, with goal of integrating mobile &amp; desktop rendering engines. As part of that the existing Flash Lite licensing fees (for SWF7 files) would go away with the new mobile Player (for SWF10 files). 

But instead of Flash Lite revenue decreasing, it increased, even after its end-of-life was announced. It was surprising enough to make that quarter&#039;s analyst call. The reason was that the iPhone convinced other manufacturers that &quot;experience matters&quot;, and they ballooned their orders, even though they&#039;d be getting even more for free the next year. 

Summarized, the positive attention paid to iPhone increased consumer expectations, which resulted in increased demand for Flash Lite among manufacturers. 

(I had a followup post the next day.)

jd/adobe</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi, the comments section at that post had more explanation of the Flash Lite line. The Open Screen Project launched in May2008, with goal of integrating mobile &amp; desktop rendering engines. As part of that the existing Flash Lite licensing fees (for SWF7 files) would go away with the new mobile Player (for SWF10 files). </p>
<p>But instead of Flash Lite revenue decreasing, it increased, even after its end-of-life was announced. It was surprising enough to make that quarter&#8217;s analyst call. The reason was that the iPhone convinced other manufacturers that &#8220;experience matters&#8221;, and they ballooned their orders, even though they&#8217;d be getting even more for free the next year. </p>
<p>Summarized, the positive attention paid to iPhone increased consumer expectations, which resulted in increased demand for Flash Lite among manufacturers. </p>
<p>(I had a followup post the next day.)</p>
<p>jd/adobe</p>
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